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asdfg I JUST I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL BUT I KNOW THAT I HAVE FEELINGS.

I'm going to have to go see it again I think. That is a huge fuckin' movie. Some quick thoughts in no order:

- Anne Hathaway was just a fantastic Selina - and hey, Holly was good too! Not quite enough cats but I was kind of glad she wasn't using the whip, tbqh. hated the heels though.
- Robin at the end was too much. Like, we got it already, Nolan, you weren't subtle AT ALL. Maybe if his name had been Tim or Jason or even Richard at the end there or something, IDK. Something a *little* more subtle. (Hey, Terry might actually have been more appropriate.)
- I was simultaneously delighted by Blake in this movie and kind of rolling my eyes at how a Batman movie with TALIA AL GHUL and SELINA KYLE was in the end all about a guy who doesn't even exist in the comics.
- On the other hand, one of my longstanding complaints about the Nolan Bats movies is that he doesn't understand the importance of the Batfamily. I still don't think he really does - Bruce is not Ra's; Bruce doesn't need heirs, Bruce needs *allies*, Bruce needs a Robin *while he's Batman* - the Robins aren't really Bruce's heirs (Dick is, but to be honest Blake had the least in common with Dick except that he was a cop I suppose. But he was angry like Jason and Steph and Damian and obsessive like Tim) - but it was still cool to see a kind of feral Batfamily being built up. And to see a kind of Robin. It has never been more clear to me that the Nolan Batman movies aren't really about DC-main-continuity Batman at all, but are really some kind of what-if-Bruce-never-met-Dick Elseworld.
- Equally though, it was frustrating to think how narratively Renee Montoya could have done everything Blake did in this movie - in fact that she basically *has* done all of this in canon!
- Which of course she did during No Man's Land. I really enjoyed seeing bits of No Man's Land in this movie, like the iconography - although that also made me miss my Batfamily, because a key part for me of NML was Helena as Bats, was Tim sneaking back to Robin, was Catwoman (okay, we got her!), was Dick, was Azrael *holding the fort* for Batman, being there when Bruce was best used in Washington. Tim would never have let them blow out that bridge at the end. However it was still cool to see that get done because that's my all-time favourite Batman story.
- I didn't even know Talia was in this movie because I have been on a DC diet, so I did a full-on GASP when she was Talia. And then I felt really dumb for not realising it when Bruce realised it was Ra's' kid who climbed out - duh, of course that was Talia and not Bane then! Anyway I was thrilled by that.
- Um, I often couldn't understand Bane when he spoke. I don't have hearing problems or anything. I think that is kind of a huge technical problem with the movie.
- Poor old Tom Hardy fans, only getting a single shot of his pretty face. He was great but ... yeah. Also, they must have had to work HARD to get extras for this film who were all as tall as or shorter than JGL and THard.
- the money/politics stuff was weird as shit. Another obscurely and senselessly conservative movie.
- Liam Neeson is a terrible casting for Ra's. MUCH worse than the casting for Talia and Bane, even though I disliked both of those. I think this every time I see him. He's just so very mad-dogs-and-Englishman. I mean a fabulous actor but just wrong. (I also hate Michael Caine for Alfred though. :-/)

OH GOSH I DID LIKE IT THOUGH. THE BATSYMBOL GRAFFITI. WHEN TALIA SAYS HER NAME. THE FLAMING BATSYMBOL. BLACKGATE.