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worryingly jolly batman ([personal profile] labellementeuse) wrote2006-03-07 03:29 pm
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See Tui avoid shopping and schoolwork! To navelgaze!

Indulging in a little navel-gazing of the ethnic type, as Pakeha New Zealanders are so wont to do, especially in the weeks leading up to our census. Cut for length, but I think it's sort of interesting, and if you're a Pakeha New Zealander I'd love to know what you think. Or even if you've never heard the word Pakeha before.

For those of you who have not been following the debate (Tze Ming Mok and Russell Brown of Public Address have both posted on the topic over the last few days: what do Caucasian New Zealanders, who are born here, put as their ethnicity on their census form? The option given on the census form is “New Zealand European”, but historically a reasonably significant percentage have ticked “other” and put either Pakeha- the Maori word for white person, derived from an older word for pale-skinned fairies in Maori mythology- or “New Zealander.” The recent debate has been sparked by an email forward urging white New Zealanders to put down simply “New Zealander” as their ethnicity.


Much more learned people than I have discussed why “New Zealander” is not, in fact, appropriate as a description of ethnicity; it’s a description of nationality, and a nationality that is shared by many different ethnicities. I don’t feel I’m qualified to discuss that much further, having never studied ethnicity and culture (To my eternal shame, I haven’t even read Michael King’s Being Pakeha, which is pretty much the seminal text on ethnicity for liberal, educated white New Zealanders.) But reading Tze Ming’s latest I came across something that I did feel I could explore a bit further, although likely in a not particularly original fashion.

“The basically white 'Just a New Zealander' people who wrote in to claim their 'just New Zealandness' settled into a few groups.
a) The Pakeha who didn't like being called Pakeha, because it's a Maori word, but had an obviously Pakeha identity in the Michael King sense - in that they were of European extraction, and their primary personal and historical affiliation is to New Zealand. For my opinion on that, see introductory sarcasm above.
b) The Pakeha who didn't really mind describing themselves as Pakeha, but didn't seem to be very clear on the difference between an ethnic identity and a national identity or national 'culture', and so didn't see what was inaccurate or misleading about writing in 'New Zealander'.
c) The people who don't like to be called 'New Zealand European' because the British Isles are not in Europe. There weren't too many of these, but I mean, really. Come on. That's about as good as the 'Chinese is an English word' argument.”

-Tze Ming Mok, March 7, in “Yellow Peril”

Now, obviously groups A and C I don’t have much to say about. C is patently stupid; A has its origins in a particularly New Zealand form of racism, as part of the Pakeha majority lashing back at what they see as the “superior” treatment of Maori. It can be associated with men who have problems with Affirmative Action because it’s “reverse sexism.” I do have a few thoughts on that but they’re best discussed elsewhere.

Group B, on the other hand, I have sympathy with. It’s certainly the group I identify most with, and it’s the group that has, in my opinion, fueled most of the useful debate about ethnicity and culture from the Pakeha perspective. Now, I intend to write Pakeha on my census form. It is a uniquely New Zealand word describing a uniquely New Zealand group of people: white people who are born here, whose primary cultural identification is with New Zealand and their perceptions of the New Zealand identity. Pakeha people think about the Treaty of Waitangi (even if not in a very subtle way), Pakeha people eat fish and chips, go to school, probably know what the score is on the last rugby match even if they don’t care, blah blah blah. It is the way I identify myself to other New Zealanders and, where possible, to non-Kiwis as well.

But it is a problematic term as it relates to ethnicity, and the difference between ethnicity and national identity. The confusion Tze Ming describes in her readers is a confusion I can identify with. Because the Pakeha culture is the dominant culture in New Zealand, to many Pakeha the New Zealand national identity looks a lot like an ethnicity. It’s not- but if it’s not, where do Pakeha find their ethnicity? Fish and chips and a preoccupation with the Treaty probably aren’t terribly useful, and they certainly aren’t what we think of when we think of “ethnicity.” For most Pakeha, myself included, their awareness of their ethnicity is slim to none. I am aware of the Pakeha culture, but I don’t know if I’d describe it as an ethnicity. What the white New Zealander thinks of when someone says the word “ethnicity” is, yes, Maori, or Chinese. We start thinking of the Lantern Festival, Diwali celebrations at the Town Hall, those awesome Pasifika drummers. What we do not think of is anything that includes ourselves. Ethnicity is defined to us as being something that excludes us. Maybe that leaves all 60% (or whatever, I can’t keep up with the statistics) as one ethnicity- but it’s an ethnicity that we define by our exclusion from other, more exciting, more colourful, more whole, more coherent identities.

Certainly we don’t – in general – identify with Scottish culture, or Irish, English… or perhaps we do. Rephrase that: I don’t. I feel no sense of connection with whatever Scottish or Norwegian relatives I may have. Of course, some people do- and perhaps for them, New Zealand European really is a good identifier. But I believe that in general, and particularly in my generation, Pakeha New Zealanders are estranged from whatever European origins they may have had. Yes, as Tze Ming Mok points out, Pakeha were made out of Europeans. Made in New Zealand, with reference to the culture—Maori culture-- that really makes us different from any other colonial country in the world. (See [livejournal.com profile] sixth_light’s excellent post here for a brief but interesting discussion of what Pakeha means.)

In conclusion- well, I don’t have a conclusion. I will be ticking “other” and writing Pakeha for my ethnicity when I fill out my census form this evening. I think that “New Zealander” is a description of nationality, not ethnicity, and that those who wish to identify themselves ethnically as New Zealanders are a) confusing national identity with ethnicity and b) potentially hijacking “New Zealander” as an inclusive term, and turning it into an exclusive one- certainly the vast majority of those who will put “New Zealander” down will be Pakeha, one way or another. I also don’t think New Zealand European is appropriate for many Pakeha New Zealanders. However, I think Pakeha confusion will continue until such time as we can truly view ourselves as a separate ethnicity- one separate from European and American culture (I haven’t even touched on the way American culture affects New Zealand culture; do we identify its influences as part of our ethnicity? Or as an outside influence on our own identity, whether one we choose or not?). An ethnicity that is part of the New Zealand national identity; and one that is defined positively, rather than non-Chinese, non-Pasifika, non-Maori, non-European. I don’t know if this is possible in the New Zealand Aotearoa of today.

To finish: The definition of an ethnic group as found in Michael E. Brown's 'Ethnic Conflict and International Security', p 4-5. (With thanks to Tze Ming Mok, from whose journal I lifted this whole.)
First, the group must have a name for itself. This is not trivial; a lack of a name reflects an insufficiently developed collective identity. Second, the people in the group must believe in a common ancestry. Third, the members of the group must share historical memories... Fourth, the group must have a shared culture, generally based on a combination of language, religion, laws, customs, [etc]. Fifth, the group must feel attachment to a specific piece of territory, which it may or may not actually inhabit. Sixth and last, the people in the group have to think of themselves as a group in order to constitute an ethnic community; that is, they must have a sense of their common ethnicity. The group must be self-aware."
We maybe have a name, if we can get everyone to agree. A common ancestry? If we can stretch English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, French, Dalmatian, Norwegian, … to “common”. Shared historical memories? Sure, why not. Shared culture? That’s a difficult one: but yes, there is a mainstream Pakeha culture in New Zealand. Defining it is problematic, and I think we often lack any personal commitment to it as a culture to be maintained (unless we’re, well, the type of people who like to talk about how in a few years we’ll all be speaking Chinese and eating with chopsticks and OMG LIKE NO WAY EVIL AZNS TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY.) We don’t celebrate it- but is that because we’re the dominant culture who frankly doesn’t need celebrating? Is it also because we can’t think of anything to celebrate? The one thing we positively have is a specific piece of territory. But self-awareness… that’s the last and the hardest. If we had it, would we still be talking about it? I don’t really know. You tell me!


Damn. Why is it so much easier to navel-gaze about my own ethnicity than it is to, you know, actually write real essays? 1500 words in forty minutes, man, If I could do all my assignments like this… I could completely turn this into an essay, people.

[identity profile] aim-toothpaste.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
Haven't had a chance to read your arguments in detail but thank you so MUCH for the links. My debaters are debating the necessity of the census.

[identity profile] rewihendrix.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
i read a book called mutants. it's actually way more than that, but if (strictly hypothetically) one has no mutations at all (most people have around 300 harmful mutations) then that's the ratio.

[identity profile] littlekoneko.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
As I said in my last bit: "If I was Maori and there was a well-known anglicised word for Maori, I wouldn't use it to describe myself. So I don't see why I should use a Maori word to describe myself. Shrug."

Fair enough that NZ and Maori culture go hand in hand. It's just not me. I'm such a nomad, too! I've lived in Australia, America and here, so yeah. :)

[identity profile] kalika.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
I'm getting your point :0) but I question the use of words like science and biology in relation to the idea of race for quite a few reasons, one of which labellementeuse mentions below.

Anyway. StatsNZ is asking about our ethnicity. Which is a cultural way that we identify ourselves with certain groups. Apart from the 'science' of race being totally dodgy, it seems the census is looking at how we see ourselves and our heritage, not just the colour of our skin.

[identity profile] roselet.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
I just spent a considerable amount of time attempting to explain why "pakeha" is just as bad as new zealander, and failed. Le sigh. My debating skills have gone down the drain - I'll never be a politician. I can't lie well.

So, it's Pakeha-German for moi, being exactly half-half. :) That took a ridiculously short time for me to convert. Where did all my argumentativeness, all my expertise in making facts out of opinon, all my pig-headedness go? I'm getting soft in my young age.

[identity profile] roselet.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
But the place can influence the ethnicity to a certain extent, what with the shared traditions/culture etc. Therefore, while the term "NZer" is a stupid one, there ought to be one that isn't "pakeha" (as we are not all pale-skinned - Hungarians, for one, have quite dark skin, despite coming from Europe). I'll go with Pakeha for the moment (unless I have a sudden urge to belong to the Ent ethnicity), but I do believe there ought to be a label that doesn't bring up images of translucent-skinned blondes (said the white blonde).

Until there is a satisfactory alternative, I'll subside more or less gracefully and tick both "new zealand european" and "other - pakeha". Unless the aforementioned urge to be an Ent strikes me.
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[identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
That's cool- I hope it helps (and they're GREAT articles. Public Address is Teh Awesome- you should check them out next time the debate is current events-y because usually at least one of the writers is saying something about anything in the news. :P

[identity profile] suneaku.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
Not sure where Stuff got their statistics from, but according to The NZ Herald - At the 2001 Census, nearly 78,000 people ignored all the stated options and wrote New Zealander or Kiwi, at least 3000 of them of Maori or Pacific Island descent. (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10370546)

Quite a bit less than 50% I'd say.

For what it's worth, I'm ticking Maori and New Zealand European.
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Re: Reduced to cynicism

[identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
*g* your way might be better, to be honest. And, actually, I have no idea of how accepted that definition is; it's simply the one that she used and seemed pretty good to me.

Thanks for the fb!

[identity profile] theatresporter.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
the term "NZer" is a stupid one, there ought to be one that isn't "pakeha"

Agreed.
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[identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently tonnes of people threw fits about not wanting to categorise themselves as "NZ European/Pakeha." Which, well, *sigh*

Actually, there are citizenship questions- or rather, they ask where you were born, which is your citizenship, or close enough. IIRC. :P It is if you're born in New Zealand, anyway.
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[identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. Yeah, I guess to some degree what you're used to calling yourself/being called is almost the most important thing.
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[identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, does this mean I win?!

*g* just kidding. I wasn't trying to be evangelical, truly! Although I am somewhat proud that my arguments are semi-convincing (unless you read Public Address, in which case, hey, I have the good linking skills!)

[identity profile] melata-fic.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 10:32 am (UTC)(link)
*nods*

I do wish there were another, better word for it, though. Even NZ Caucasian.

[identity profile] nznats.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
*shrug* I am putting New Zealander/Kiwi not because its what I have been told to do its just what I have always put on my forms because thats what I feel I am. I didnt hear it on the news, Im not doing to to be radical I just feel both my nationality and ethnicity are New Zealand, its where I am from and my family, I am part of the New Zealand culture, and New Zealands history

[identity profile] bad-mushroom.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm. I see what you mean--Maori culture is important to Pakeha, so Pakeha seem to find themselves culture-less.

In America, what I find to be true is that white Americans tend to identify with their original (European) cultural group--in fact, everyone but slave-descended black Americans do the same. Like my family. We do not usually think of ourselves as white Americans. We would prefer the phrase Franco-Americans, or Italian Americans, because that is our pre-American cultural history.

Native Americans, on the other hand...you're right, they don't have much voice. They mostly live on reservations, at least, full and half-Native Americans do. But then you have the unique thing about Maine and New England, which is that EVERYBODY shares a little Native American blood, because the colonials tended to a) rape b) marry Native women.

The question of black/white? In some places it's bad. In others it's not. Portland, for example, is pretty good. But then you take the example of the small rural town where I grew up, and it's quite different. I had a friend there who was biracial (her father was black, mother white) who didn't even want to admit in public that her father was black until the very end of my aquaintance with her.

So yeah, the struggle here is mostly one of racism, not really culture.

[identity profile] roselet.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I hadn't really thought/read about this at all until this year. So it must be your natural charisma and logical points.

[identity profile] sixth-light.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I would note that Caucasian comes from "Caucasus", a mountain range in Georgia and Armenia, and is therefore about as far from descriptive of populations descended from Western Europeans as you can get.

[identity profile] littlekoneko.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks. ;) It's amazing how many people have posted or emailed to make me feel this uneducated. ;)

[identity profile] sixth-light.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
*coughs* Actually "people of the land" is tangata whenua. Turangawaewae is the marae of the Maori Queen up in the Waikato. Lovely place, very impressive, but a proper noun all the same.
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[identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com 2006-03-08 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
*FACEPALM* I KNEW THAT TOO. But got confused. *le sigh*

[identity profile] andynz81.livejournal.com 2006-03-08 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
For my part, I wrote caucasion, broad and meaningless as it is, for the sake of simplicity more than accuracy. Amongst other things I studied NZ nationalism and ethnicity at uni, coming to the conclusion that all those white guys like myself don't fit into a unique NZ ethnic group. It's very much an opinionated thing, however there are definate, accepted attributes of an ethnicity, as you've stated above, which we simply don't seem to meet in my view, at least at this point.

On another note, I wouldn't use the term Pakeha. It seems a little odd to have to borrow a phrase from the other obvious group inhabiting the same space. There's no emotion in that decision, or racism for that matter, just a view that to borrow a term for something so seemingly inherent seems a little fraudulent. My nationality? New Zealander. My Ethnicity? Pick-'n-mix-whiteboy-child-of-the-world

[identity profile] sixth-light.livejournal.com 2006-03-08 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
Livejournal, where the pedants roam free.

My two cents.

[identity profile] pacifini.livejournal.com 2006-03-08 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
My mother's Tahitian, my dad's a kiwi. I can not identify with my tahitian side at all, and yet because I am brown does that instantly put me in the "Other Pacific Island" catagory?

I was born in NZ, raised in NZ, my community is NZ. I identify with others who have been in NZ all their lives and therefore have put "New Zealander" on my form. It's what I personally relate to.

[identity profile] scarlett-dragon.livejournal.com 2006-03-09 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
I have found the debates regarding one's ethnicity extremely fascinating. I myself used the term NZEuropean, as I am French, Dutch and a New Zealander, but I was born in and grew up in New Zealand. Personally I do not use the term pakeha as it does not feel right for me, in fact I don't think I have ever really used it.

People also need to remember that this information is being gathered for a reason, one of which is future planning for healthcare, because some ethinicities are more prone to diseases/illnesses than others.

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