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worryingly jolly batman ([personal profile] labellementeuse) wrote2006-11-06 11:36 am

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I know that when I say this,
I may be stepping on pins and needles;
But I don't like all these people
slagging her for breaking up the Beatles.
(Don't blame it on Yokey!)

-- Barenaked Ladies, Be My Yoko Ono

THE END.



GOD PEOPLE JUST STOP SLAGGING HER. WAH.

Insert stuff here about the fannish bill of rights and the right to love and hate in your own journals however the hell you want, and I really believe that (except things like the communuties where they go out of their way to find bad fanfiction and take it to pieces? I hate that. And sometimes FW turns me right the fuck off but.) HOWEVER JESUS PEOPLE LISTEN TO YOURSELVES TALK. I saw someone say somewhere - I think TWOP, and I know I should know better than to go there anyway - that they hadn't made a judgement on Jo until this episode and they really couldn't put their finger on why they hated her so much but they really did!1!!

If you believe that you believe in heaven. Seriously? If you can't even think of a reason why you don't like Jo, you ether don't want to admit that you hate her because she's a love interest for Dean and she's breaking up the wincest or you... really lack any kind of introspection at all. I love Sam and I love Dean and I love Sam/Dean and Sam&Dean and all the rest of it, but having a semi occasionally recurring character is not going to destroy the dynamic. Really. Honestly. And Dean is not a real person, guys, you're NEVER going to get with him so she's not really getting in the way... really...

Also, seems to me like a lot of the people who post-No Exit are complaining about there not being enough Sam were also the people complaining about there being too much Sam in Simon Said. Do with that what you will.

Finally, I've read (unconfirmed) that the ending of No Exit was designed so that if fannish reaction towards Jo was negative it could be her last appearance. Which SUCKS big time but also... um. If Kripke is remotely in touch with his fans, which I think he is in some possibly disturbing ways, he must have known that any kind of romantic foil for Dean would be met with immediate and significantly irrational hate. He must have. So I don't really know what to do with that other than to talk about how much I love Jo and want her to stick around. :-/

[identity profile] skadi.livejournal.com 2006-11-05 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
This hatred for some characters (and, honestly, some female characters who may or may not be breaking up a slash couple) freaks me out sometimes. I don't want to get into it more because, er, I don't want to get in a fight with anyone. But I hear what you're saying!
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[identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com 2006-11-06 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
This hatred for some characters (and, honestly, some female characters who may or may not be breaking up a slash couple) freaks me out sometimes.

Ditto. And I really do think female characters are often the ones who get it in the neck from slashers. Forget the New York second - the time between a female character or love interest being introduced and the first claim that she's a Mary Sue is the shortest time period in the universe. *sigh* It makes me miserable because... girls! And most slashers are girls and it feels to me like they should be happy there are girls in there, but NO. :( Oh Jo.

[identity profile] amarynth.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
A good discussion of the fate of female characters in slash fiction: http://revena.livejournal.com/231876.html
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[identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Ta for that!