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worryingly jolly batman ([personal profile] labellementeuse) wrote2008-04-22 10:00 am

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So in my spare time in the holidays I've been doing a bunch of reading in different areas of feminism, as is my wont. I've been trying to challenge myself as much as possible and succeeding to varying degrees, so here, have some links. In order of ease of understanding/response (in other words, in order from least important to most important.)

The Blag (the weblog of xkcd artist Randall Munroe) recently featured some quick stats on gender and film billing - he wanted to find out how many of the 20 most popular films in the past few years were billed male/male, male/female, female/male, female/female. Not shockingly M/M were most popular. I was, however, really, really surprised by how few female/female movies there were in his criteria (there are some questions about his methodology: basically, he did the 20 economically biggest movies of each of the last 4 years, the 20 since 1977, and the 20 of all time, all according to IMDB. Plenty of people threw a snit about this. I think it's valuable since this kind of survey really looks at what Hollywood is willing to spend money on - in other words, its predictable, formulaic stories. Of course there are plenty of indie, etc films which are female/female billed, many of which make more money in proportion to the budget they spend. However, Hollywood's biggest films are the sway of popular culture. They reach the most people and, because they are pop culture standards, they are normative.) The comments section is an absolute morass of privileged people pitching fits, including some truly astounding examples of misogyny, but the post and some of the comments are kind of fun. Coming off that, I'm currently downloading some trashy flick about a girl's boarding school in which.... both of the two top-billed cast are men. It's a film about a girl's boarding school! WTF?

I've been reading a lot at the Hand Mirror lately - it's a blog by a group of New Zealand feminists. (Actually, does anyone have a paid account that can syndicate this for me? I'd really love to be able to read it on the friends page. Stargazer, the blog of anjum rahman, is also pretty excellent.) Anyway, after reading a couple of Friday Feminists (weekly posts highlighting the work of an individual feminist) on Marilyn Waring I became sort of intrigued. New Zealanders will probably remember Marilyn Waring as the National Party MP who crossed the floor in 1984 on the nuclear ships issue, causing the snap election which would see David Lange become PM (and also, of course, eventually introduced Rogernomics.) I am quite sure that I disagree with Waring on any number of issues, especially globalisation, but I've been reading her feminist writing and finding it incredibly radical, in the best ways, and stirring. Her most famous work is her book If Women Counted/Counting for Nothing: What Men Value and What Women are Worth, which was actually made into a short film in Canada (it's on Youtube in three parts and is HIGHLY recommended.) The chief thrust of this book is that the way countries account their economy fails to place any kind of value on work that no-one is paid for - usually women's work. The GDP is a value which says nothing about living standards in a country, distribution of wealth, treatment of land, etc, etc, etc. Waring's book is basically an indictment on this kind of economics, profoundly radical and very moving, based on her own experiences in New Zealand politics and working with the United Nations. I'm really inspired.

And finally, I've been thinking hard about what BetaCandy at the Hathor Legacy describes as narcissist feminism - in other words, feminism that is selfishly or narrowly concerned with feminist issues for one's own group, chiefly white middle-class feminism. This kind of feminism is as privileged within the feminist movement as white middle-class Pakeha are privileged within society. It enables writers to speak of all women while really writing about the issues of privileged women, making invisible the experiences and importance of problems for women of colour and lower-class women. I am finding it a genuine struggle to address within myself and I'm not sure how well I'm going to respond to it but it's not difficult to be the person who listens when people tell her she's speaking with privilege, and do my best to read holistically rather than narrowly about my own experience. Privilege Is Hard Lulz.

[identity profile] amarynth.livejournal.com 2008-04-21 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
And finally, I've been thinking hard about what BetaCandy at the Hathor Legacy describes as narcissist feminism

Interesting. I've always used the phrase 'Sex and the City' feminism to describe what I think is roughly the same phenomenon.
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[identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com 2008-04-22 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I would have said S&tC feminism is descriptive of a highly sex-positive & somewhat, erm, misogynistic feminism, which is kind of a contradiction I suppose... in a way a particular, somewhat dated feminism. but sure, why not, it's not an official term or anything! I'd been thinking about it before I read the post but it was just a good reference.

[identity profile] amarynth.livejournal.com 2008-04-22 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
It's funny, you're like the second person to mention Waring's book in the last two weeks.

I haven't read what she's written but from what I've heard it's nothing new. Although I imagine Waring (even if she has foresworn her former Tory party membership card) would shrink at being described as a Marxist, she seems to simply be restating the Marxist-feminist thesis that appeared in the 1960s without any significant commentary. The main problem I have with the Marxist-feminist analysis of oppression is that, AFAICT, a woman who lives by hereself and never has children is not oppressed by men, since she isn't doing any unpaid work on their behalf (except for her employers, who are probably men, but she's no more oppressed than a man in a similar situation).

[identity profile] confusiontempst.livejournal.com 2008-04-21 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
http://syndicated.livejournal.com/the_hand_mirror/ SHOULD work, I think. If it doesn't, it means I fed the wrong url into it to begin with.

EDIT: It finally updated to show some entries. Enjoy :)
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[identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com 2008-04-22 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
AWESOME! Thank you zillions! :D :D :D

PS: I have been following your latest posts, but feel a bit incapable of responding w/adequate sympathy - really hope things go well for you & your brother.

[identity profile] confusiontempst.livejournal.com 2008-04-22 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Cheers :)

I can't believe I forgot to go to Total Recall last night.

In other news, egad, I got maybe a fifteenth of the way down the XKCD page before I had to give up due to wanting to punch misogynistic fuckers.

Please tell me I've never been guilty of the "men explaining things" problem near you?
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[identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com 2008-04-22 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
We watched the Princess Bride too! You missed out on the chorus of "Wuv. Twoo wuv..." Also, Total Recall was ridic! Science laughable, gore ridiculous, so glad I went :P

It actually improves somewhat as you get down the page, but yeah, awful.

Hm. Well, not in my memory, but it's definitely something I have experienced and it's absolutely something that guy geeks tend to do a lot. However, since I've had it a LOT, I have developed the self-confidence to tell guys that they don't know what they're talking about, so it's possible I wouldn't let you get away with it. ;) (The old guy at the Westport thing was definitely guilty of this, as an example.)

[identity profile] confusiontempst.livejournal.com 2008-04-22 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
I suspect as a philosophy major I might do it a bit.

But if I do, i do it at -everyone-, and it's because being opinionated is fun. Also there's one person in one of my classes (unfortunately female) who always asks for more basic explanations of concepts. GAAAH.

[identity profile] roadtomanderlay.livejournal.com 2008-04-22 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yay! Another Handmirror reader! :) That makes me happy.
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[identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com 2008-04-22 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I started following them because you linked to them! And lo, they are wonderful, thank you!

[identity profile] roadtomanderlay.livejournal.com 2008-04-22 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
It's good to know at least one person has read my links posts...
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[identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com 2008-04-26 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I really enjoy them! I'm just a crappy commenter.

[identity profile] skadi.livejournal.com 2008-04-22 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Ha! That's interesting - I've been doing something very similar. Using my favorite feminist blogs, I've found some recommended books for all feminists and I've been reading them. I'm also concentrating a bit on radical feminism because I've always been curious about it.
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[identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com 2008-04-26 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Reading about feminism rocks. :P I do occasionally find it ENRAGING, though.