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worryingly jolly batman ([personal profile] labellementeuse) wrote2009-11-16 03:37 pm

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1. "I think it's a kiwi." "Don't they only live in Australia or New Zealand?" *sob*

2. On "Ms." Not the magazine, the title. If I could make one single absolute change to the world, it would probably be Ms. Mrs. would be gone and Miss would be like Master - on the way out. I know that is a pretty bourgeois English-speaking problem, and obviously I could say, end poverty, hunger, violence. But I think those things are symptoms, not the disease, ad I think curing the disease is going to take more than one change. So: Ms.

Here are some of the things I think about Ms.

"Miss" implies this: You're a woman. You're unmarried. You probably don't have dependents and in fact might be dependent upon others. You're probably young = naive, and/or young = irresponsible, and/or young = don't need promotions/careers instead of jobs/pay raises.

"Mrs." implies this: You're a heterosexual woman. You're married. You're dependent (or codependent) upon others. You also have a good chance of having dependents, who might cause you to take time off work to go pick them up from school, look after them when they're sick, etc. This means you probably shouldn't get responsibilities in case you can't fulfill them because of that, even though you are more responsible than that Miss. You're dependent so you probably don't need that pay raise.

"Mr." implies this: You're a man and you're an adult.

Why would you let people who know, potentially, nothing about you than your name have all that extra information about you?

And these are only the most practical, boring reasons. For reasons that actually make me angry, check out a person paper on purity in language.

[identity profile] semiramis.livejournal.com 2009-11-16 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Word. Word word worditty word word word. I hate that about the English language.

Also, hahaha, I love that paper, although I'm pretty certain it's aimed at laypeople--talk about language purity to a linguist and they turn their nose up at you and call you a prescriptivist.

(...that's another one: I want it to be acceptable to use "they" in the singular. The usage has a long history! I do not understand why we persist in insisting it's wrong. English needs a gender-neutral third person singular that isn't disrespectful.)
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[personal profile] china_shop 2009-11-16 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
"I think it's a kiwi." "Don't they only live in Australia or New Zealand?" *sob*

*criez*

On "Ms."

A world of yes. And telemarketers always call up and ask for "Mrs [surname]", and it drives me nuts! *rage-stompyfeet* Otoh, it means that any time anyone calls up for "Mrs [surname]" I can tell them they have the wrong number and hang up immediately. :-P

[identity profile] squaringkarma.livejournal.com 2009-11-16 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
I really do prefer Ms above all else.

[identity profile] paintmarks.livejournal.com 2009-11-16 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
I always define myself as Ms, just to avoid those. I've even stopped including my date of birth on job apps to directly move away from people basing choices on age.

[identity profile] sixth-light.livejournal.com 2009-11-16 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
Only one person has tried to call me Mrs. (Mike's last name) so far. I'm hoping I can keep it that low. Telemarketers ask for Mrs. [My Last Name] all the time, but that's just because I'm in the phone book, so I'm a little more philosophical about it.
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[personal profile] kitsunerei88 2009-11-16 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Totally completely agree.

My marital status is completely totally none of anyone's business unless they're paying me/my family benefits. Then I should just be able to check a box that indicates that and not go by Mrs at all. blah.

I'm not sure how I feel about changing my last name though. --'' I think I wouldn't want to, but I wouldn't be so adamant as to not come to a compromise over it.

[identity profile] tauira.livejournal.com 2009-11-18 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
That person paper is amazing. Bookmarked!