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Fucking what now? The review of the Abortion Supervisory Committee (conducted under pressure from Right to Life NZ) has led Justice Forrest Miller to say that the legality of many abortions in NZ is questionable.

Fucking christ. I'm giving money to Women's National Abortion Campaign right now. This is such a big deal, people. D: D: D:

Date: 2008-06-10 10:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
And I'll elaborate on that: the difference between you talking about abortion (or the christian right talking about homosexuality), and you talking about theft, is that when it comes to theft you're making a moral decision about something which affects you. You're saying people who are me should not suffer because of other people's morality. When it comes to abortion and homosexuality you're saying people who are not you should suffer because of your morality.

Date: 2008-06-10 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rewihendrix.livejournal.com
That's ridiculous. Are you saying we should let a paedophilic father do what he likes with his 5 year old daughter, simply because it doesn't affect us?

Date: 2008-06-10 10:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
Are you saying we should criminalise homosexuality just because it's morally offensive to some people?

And no, because see, paedophilia hurts a child. The foetus(/embryo/blastocyst, thank you, smartypants) hurts the mother. You're saying "we should hurt X, who is not me, because we think Y." Laws against stealing, murder, and paedophilia are written "we should prevent X from hurting Y, who may be me." That is to say, stealing, murder, and paedophilia are crimes we may all be victim of (I mean, the latter has an expiry date on our susceptibility to it.) You can frame the abortion debate that way but it is misguided.

Date: 2008-06-10 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rewihendrix.livejournal.com
I'm too old to be a victim of paedophilia. I'm also too old to be aborted. I can't be person Y.


And i have no problem with abortion before differentiaton. Simply because, if a group of cells can be split into 2 (4,6,8) live beings, than i can't call them humanly alive. They are simply the things which give rise to human life (in the same way that eggs and sperm do).

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