I would like to add: The Wrath of Khan, original movie, worked because of the long development of friendship between Kirk and Spock. It seems perfectly find to me to use Khan as a villain in the rebooted Trek verse, but to do a new movie that echoes the old, when these two have barely gained respect for each other - no. Into Darkness had Spock showing more emotion about Kirk than he previously had about his whole planet. Does not compute.
(The argument in the away-team shuttle was such a wonderful threesome moment, though: 'Don't bring me into this!'/'Well, actually, she's right.')
I agree with you especially about the lack of stakes and the lack of lessons and I'd like to come up with something coherent to add to that, but you seem to have said it already.
And oh that plot. Everything about Kronos - wtf. Everything about fighting near Earth - argh. Nabiru - argh. In this movie, we had some pretty interesting, competent, fun characters doing cool stuff in space, and if you ask me what they actually did, I will pretend to forget.
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Date: 2013-05-10 11:28 pm (UTC)I would like to add: The Wrath of Khan, original movie, worked because of the long development of friendship between Kirk and Spock. It seems perfectly find to me to use Khan as a villain in the rebooted Trek verse, but to do a new movie that echoes the old, when these two have barely gained respect for each other - no. Into Darkness had Spock showing more emotion about Kirk than he previously had about his whole planet. Does not compute.
(The argument in the away-team shuttle was such a wonderful threesome moment, though: 'Don't bring me into this!'/'Well, actually, she's right.')
I agree with you especially about the lack of stakes and the lack of lessons and I'd like to come up with something coherent to add to that, but you seem to have said it already.
And oh that plot. Everything about Kronos - wtf. Everything about fighting near Earth - argh. Nabiru - argh. In this movie, we had some pretty interesting, competent, fun characters doing cool stuff in space, and if you ask me what they actually did, I will pretend to forget.