*stunned*

Oct. 28th, 2005 06:50 pm
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So, in the post-Election National party shuffle-around and line up, #14 Wayne Mapp has been appointed:
Labour & Industrial Relations
Political Correctness Eradication
Chair of Caucus Policy Committee

I kid you not. Actual Eradication. In Radio NZ interviews, he's gone on to advocate the removal of the Human Rights Commission, along with- predictably- the Waitangi Tribunal (I haven't listened to the interviews but I would not be much surprised if he also had a tizzy about Women's Affairs. @!@#$) Keith Ng has an awfully good column about liberalism and the National- liberalism in the ACT/USA sense, which is not always the way we use it in NZ. David Haywood was very funny in a satire that, unfortunately, is not all that far from the truth. Holly Walker has s short piece about the usefulness of the phrase "political correctness", Adam Gifford writes about PC and mainstream.

Lyndon Hood kind of summarised my thoughts on the issue, though:
Wayne Mapp: Opposition spokesman for Political Correctness Eradication.

W - as they say - TF?

Had National been elected, we would presumably be forming a Department (surely not a Ministry) of Political Correctness Eradication.


fuckers. To think I thought I wouldn't have any more use for this icon after the election.

Date: 2005-10-28 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-larla.livejournal.com
Yea Gads and holy Pigeons( bet you haven't heard that one before!)
Having read this, I have one question- do they really take themselves seriously? Have they ever heard themselves speak? And I wonder if they'd say this - really I do if they were in the same situation themselves..(ok so in certain cases you have to born to certain community and thats out of your control- but guess what women didn't ask to be born women ( I don't know that many that would take the alternative though) and handicapped people certainly didn't ask to be. "Political Correctness Eradication" honestly I tell you...(Ok so I asked more than one question but I had to.)
As for your Icon keep it - now with this post having been created(?) I'm sure you're going to need it at regular intervals! Hell make me one for when I come (even though I can't vote and if I could it certainly wouldn't be for them!)

Date: 2005-10-28 10:16 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
The handicapped one is a satire. They're not that bad (just close...)

Date: 2005-10-28 07:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miriamus.livejournal.com
It's so reactionary, te he he. Even though there are a few situatons that probably could do with asking do we really need to do this or are we just doing it because PCness says we should, eradicating political correctness?? Sounds like something my brother would think up. I personally think the human rights commission and waitangi tribunal are more crucial than women's affairs, really, but there's a huge difference between redressing stuff that's a bit over-the-top PC and taking our morals back to the 50s.

Date: 2005-10-28 10:36 am (UTC)
ext_2569: text: "a straight account is difficult, so let me define seven wishes" image: man on steps. (not mainstream PRIDE brash-bashing)
From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
ell, it is "reactionary", and a lot of it reads like far-right fringe groups...
... except this is the National Party. 39% of people voted for them. This is not a small group, this is not even ACT, this is National. It's freaking disgusting and Orewa all over again, featuring National using its mainstream kudos to condone bigotry, racism, and foul injustice in the name of "the mainstream." Simply by claiming that they speak for everyone, they succeed in convincing that their views are somehow not as radical as they truly are. It's the biggest sleight of hand around and it's sickening.

WRT: discussion and political correctness: one of the most interesting things about the term "politically correct" is that it was spawned by the right as a derogatory term, which we forget. It was designed to obscure argument: politicians label something "politically correct" (or, fair's far, "politically incorrect") and suddenly all debate on the topic in question is about whether or not it's "politically correct," and what's good and bad about PC- rather than about what's good and bad with the idea itself.

Someone on David P Farrar- the right wing blog, and the commenter too seems to be a Nationalist- wrote:
"My point is the slogan 'political correctness' is intelectually bankrupt. Simply labelling as political correct Lesley Soper's suggestion that maiden speeches be renamed doesn't actually add anything to the debate about whether Lesley Soper is right or wrong. The follow up question to that labelling shoud surely be "So what?". Whether it is or isn't 'politically correct' really doesn't say much about whether we should take up her idea or not or why it would be bad idea. Simply saying because it is PC is not good enough.

And I for one am sick and tired of that intellectually lazy slogan. It's time for National to offer us a little more depth (if that's possible)."

right on.

Date: 2005-10-29 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miriamus.livejournal.com
So it's spokesman for totally missing the point then is it? :P

Date: 2005-10-29 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] -cynick-.livejournal.com
... or spokesperson ...

Date: 2005-10-31 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miriamus.livejournal.com
that too.

Date: 2005-10-28 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aim-toothpaste.livejournal.com
Didn't Don Brash say that it was appropriate for him to have the job because he 'has a Maori wife'?

I found that amusing.

Date: 2005-10-28 11:06 am (UTC)
ext_2569: text: "a straight account is difficult, so let me define seven wishes" image: man on steps. (full to the brim with you)
From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
*facepalm* i believe so, yes.

These people.

Date: 2005-10-28 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blademistress.livejournal.com
So. Much. Hate.

Dear "mainstream" assfucks.

Here's the definition of "political correctness" as set down by Webster.

Main Entry: political correctness
Function: noun
: conformity to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities should be eliminated


Here's the defintion of "political correctness" as set down by Wordweb:

Avoidance of expressions or actions that can be perceived to exclude or marginalize or insult people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.

Gosh. You know what? You're so right. We should get rid of it. Then those damn faggots, koons, chinks, and retards will... stop oppressing me! Yes! That's it! (Urg I feel dirty just have written this. I will not even go to the n word, even for satire.)

*SEETHES*

Winston, I take it back. I love you. Thank you for not sucking Don off.

Why haven't they thrown Don out yet? Come on, he failed. STAB HIM IN THE BACK. DOOO EEET.

Where's Facelift when we need it? I'm so linking this.

Date: 2005-10-28 10:52 am (UTC)
ext_2569: text: "a straight account is difficult, so let me define seven wishes" image: man on steps. (lord what fools these mortals be)
From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
*hiss spit* BASTARDS.

Mind you, it's quite nice to see DPF get smacked DOWM in his comments section (http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/archives/012313.html)- not that this doesn't happen often; several of his commentators tend to seem more intelligent and logical than he does on a way-too-regular basis. What's really nice, though, this time, is that he seems to be getting smacked by National Supporters. and people with usernames like "rightkiwi." It's a joy and a delight. (read at least the first half of the comments, there's a tonne of junk also but some really neat stuff in there too.)

Winston, I take it back. I love you. Thank you for not sucking Don off.
I never, never thought I'd think anything like this, but compared with Wayne Mapp? Winnie's like a breath of fresh air.

I'm hoping for Bill English... he was so nice and pathetic... mind you, if they keep talking like this, they're a shoo-in to lose the next election (surely, surely...) and hopefully will lose some of the credibility that way-too-long as one of the Two Big Parties has accorded both them and their recent radicalist rhetoric. But if they keep it up, people will start to call bullshit.

Date: 2005-10-28 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skadi.livejournal.com
...fz?

What?!

Date: 2005-10-29 06:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skadi.livejournal.com
Hee! Thanks. It's one of my old favorites.

Date: 2005-10-28 10:41 am (UTC)
ext_2569: text: "a straight account is difficult, so let me define seven wishes" image: man on steps. (not mainstream PRIDE brash-bashing)
From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
Oh my god, there are sane people in my country, I promise! We have three gay MPs (I think... I lose track sometime...) and a MTF transgender Maori ex-prostitute in Cabinet, our three top positions go to women, last two terms we had a Hungarian-born British-educated rastafarian with MASSIVE dreadlocks, we have civil unions and Prostution Reform Bill and everything, oh my god please don't JUDGE US BY THIS TIT. *whimpers* Look article about PC in NZ! (http://203.97.5.87/inline/critic/view_article.php?issue=Critic2005_12&article=article33) from Critic, the Victoria Uni student rag.

On the other hand, this guy is a representative of the chief Opposition party, who campaigned on- among other things- the "mainstream New Zealand" (their leader, two nights before the election, actually said that anyone who voted for Labour was not "mainstream." (Hence icon...) Mainstream is the party now in Government, with 2% more votes than National. I find it incredibly frustrating how, by dint of being a Major Party, they are condoning as "mainstream" what is really fringe rhetoric. it's like some sick sleight of hand and it's killing me.

But we're really not all that bad... honest...

Date: 2005-10-28 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] disturbed-kiwi.livejournal.com
National has a gay MP.

I'm going to start saying "Aren't National Dumbarses" to people as they come through work.

And I'll keep saying mainstream isn't old bald white men who only get 40% of the vote.

Date: 2005-10-29 12:34 am (UTC)
ext_2569: text: "a straight account is difficult, so let me define seven wishes" image: man on steps. (Default)
From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
Yeah, someone told me that- about National having a gay MP- actually, but I forget who it is. Um?

Date: 2005-10-30 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] -cynick-.livejournal.com
Tony Ryall? I think there have been vicious stories about him and rent boys...

Date: 2005-10-31 10:28 am (UTC)
ext_2569: text: "a straight account is difficult, so let me define seven wishes" image: man on steps. (Peter the King | spicedrum_icons)
From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
Aw, man, that's kind of tragic. *sigh* Thanks.

Date: 2005-10-29 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skadi.livejournal.com
But we're really not all that bad... honest...

Oh, don't worry! I believe you! I'm from America, after all - not much room to talk here.

Date: 2005-10-31 10:28 am (UTC)
ext_2569: text: "a straight account is difficult, so let me define seven wishes" image: man on steps. (dandelion rights | posticonic)
From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
:) Well, that's a relief.

Er, not about America, of course. *makes sympathetic noises*

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