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[labellementeuse]

So, Lost this week? Very Good. EXCEPT...

*sigh* Man, I am getting so sick of the way
a) Jack keeps treating Kate
b) the show keeps treating Kate.

Jack is constantly trying to sideline Kate, protect her, keep her out of the big manly man crap (this despite the fact that I'm pretty sure he hadn't held a gun before the island and she had. I mean, she is tougher than him, has better aim, is probably nearly as strong as him.) It's not like this is the first episode where he's been all "omg kate you must stay behind, even though we're taking people who are CLEARLY NOT AS QUALIFIED and in fact UNWELL." He didn't even try to justify her staying behind, or make it palatable for her the way an actual good leader would have. However, I could cope with this as a character flaw of Jack if the show didn't keep validating his decisions. He tells her to stay behind, so she goes running off after him (although she's more responsible than, say, Sawyer would be, making sure there are people at the hatch to push the button, etc) and gets captured, victimised, and used. Which wouldn't have happened if he'd just taken her with him. But also it was a conscious choice on the part of the show to choose Kate to be the victim, to be presented as incompetent, as opposed to Jack for being a crappy leader. They could have done it just as easily with Jin or even Sayid but oh noes, that would have meant making the cool male characters look all incompetent and victim-y. Oh, but here's Kate, she's a woman, let's use her!


*fumes* If it was just once. But it's not; the show just keeps on doing this and it pisses me the hell off. Remember back when Kate was a strong character and a kickass gal?

Comments

[disturbed-kiwi.livejournal.com]

Actually, no I don't remeber that. She's always annoyed me.

But I see what you mean about this one really ending up validating Jack's choice. I thought it was a bad choice, but it did justify itself in his head. What I didn't like was her getting all upset and trying to apologise.

I'm also not sure exactly what it meant in relation to the history of his wife leaving him. He always needs something to fix? That's why he couldn't accept that Michael was going to go and nothing could stop him. But why did it mean he had to leave Kate behind?

It was a wierd episode. Ialso didn't think that the Others were all that impressive.

[nic-the-hat.livejournal.com]

Jack is kinda boring...I'm much more a Kate/Sawyer person now, but only because they've explored him to DEATH.

In fact, I'm kinda bored of the whole kate/sawyer/jack thing now.

[sixth-light.livejournal.com]

Kate/Sawyer is teh awesome. There's this interesting contrast; in every scene with Sawyer, Kate is likeable and tough and kickass and interesting. In every scene with Jack, she whimpers and becomes a...well, a real girl, in the pejorative sense.

I'm just hoping they continue where they're going with Jack and Ana-Lucia, and let Kate and Sawyer be awesome together.

[(Anonymous)]

If you think Lost is "difficult" to deal with, you should try tolerating the problems of Smallville once in a while... ;-)

(It's a love/hate thing -- it gets increasingly worse, but I just can't stop watching...)

I'll catch up on Lost on DVD later...been a little busy with this PhD thing...

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Michael

[rewihendrix.livejournal.com]

jack is a dick. i'm sick of his attitude. he's the type of character that would rape someone. he gets off on the feeling of control (which is why people rape, not to get their rocks off as you guys seemed to to think in our discussion a while ago. My Maori teacher used to interview criminals in jail.

[sixth-light.livejournal.com]

*eyeroll* Rewi, sweetie, there's elements of both things. Homosexual rape in jail is usually entirely power-based, but often heterosexual rape isn't. There are elements of power things, but...it's complex.

And I disagree about Jack. He's a dork sometimes, but he's also a genuinely decent guy.

[rewihendrix.livejournal.com]

the common motive is the feeling of having complete power over another person. if a guy was really horny than he'd just masturbate rather than rape.

And that's the problem with Jack, and his paralel, Ana-Lucia (both had difficult relationships with their same-sex parents, etc). They both like having control over everyone else. They are of course both good people with good intentions. but they have problems, just as a rapist can be a perfectly good citizen, he/she just has a thirst for domination. The fact that it happens more in men than in women is because testosterone is important in promoting dominance heirarchy amongst men - a tall muscular man with a defined jawline and a large nose is likely to be earning more money than a short man with a high body fat percentage.

[dawnraided.livejournal.com]

Maybe they're doing it on purpose to piss you off?