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[labellementeuse]

I went to Star Trek this evening (for the third time) with my family. If you have parents in the 50-60 range I highly recommend this as an experiment because my parents loved it and it turned out they had some pretty specific memories about TOS. My mother, for example, remembers the episode with the dudes with one half of the face greasepainted black and one half greasepainted white - an episode I actually studied in class last year - and also remembers them doing shows on abortion (!!!! I really want to know if this is true or not!) etc. She recognised Leonard Nimoy straightaway and they were both thrilled by the fact he was in it. My dad said that us young things wouldn't really know much about Trek anymore and it wouldn't be as meaningful for us, which is hilarious because I'd been thinking, you know, I'm a big ole SF geek so I must be getting a lot more out of it than they are. But I'm not that big of a Trek fan and, clearly, they were! Back in the day. Hilarious.

They loved Quinto, although they also watch Heroes so.

Mum thought it was a little FX-heavy but, predictably, thought they could have spent more time on the beautiful shot of the Enterprise rising out of... whichever moon of Saturn they were supposed to be rising out of (Titan? I forget.) (This is predictable because my mother is a big ole' astronomy geek.) I decided, watching the movie, that if I was only going to take one shot away from the whole movie, it would be the one of the Enterprise being built in drydock in Iowa. Not even because it's the Enterprise - although fuck yeah, that's awesome in a cultural studies kind of way - but because that image is, to me, more or less the pinnacle of all hard SF and space opera that has ever been or ever will be.

I mean. It's a GIANT SPACE SHIP IN THE MIDDLE OF IOWA. It's about... growth, change, progress, advancement. It's also, I guess, playing really well into the current depression because it's so damn hopeful, it's escapism - escaping financal crisis, escaping Earth's gravity well, what's the diff?

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[jeeps]

oh, that's lovely. mr. jeeps and i just kind of looked at each other when the text came up on the screen for where the current scene was set (IOWA) and laughed, because, how incongruous with the epic scale of the scenes before and those that would inevitably follow. i like this way of looking at it, though.

[amarynth.livejournal.com]

I've been trying to get my father to see it. I know he was a fan of the original series so I'll be interested to know if he likes this one.

[labellementeuse.livejournal.com]

I believe a majority of the hardcore oldschool fans liked it fine - and you know they're the hardest crowd to please EVER. Casual oldschool watchers all seem to like it.

[usagiko.livejournal.com]

fff, I loved it and am going again this weekend. <3

[labellementeuse.livejournal.com]

It doesn't suffer from repeated viewing - I saw it on Tuesday of this week and still enjoyed it just fine!

[sixth-light.livejournal.com]

I mean. It's a GIANT SPACE SHIP IN THE MIDDLE OF IOWA. It's about... growth, change, progress, advancement. It's also, I guess, playing really well into the current depression because it's so damn hopeful, it's escapism - escaping financal crisis, escaping Earth's gravity well, what's the diff?

That shot really resonated for me in the trailer, too. More so, in a funny way, than the first shot of the Enterprise in space, because I knew what that looked like. The more rational part of me had some issues with *Iowa*, because, hello, waste of good agricultural land much? but I can rationalise that away...somehow. Probably it was prior canon or something.

I'm about to start watching some episodes of TOS, because I kind of feel like I should, and also because it's the only way to get more of these characters before they make another movie. Plus, it is quickly becoming apparent from episode descriptions that TOS is the source of almost every sci-fi fanfic cliche *ever*, in canonical form, and, really - who can pass up that?

[labellementeuse.livejournal.com]

Probably it was prior canon or something.

Kirk being from Iowa is canonical but apparently in the prime universe the Enterprise (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(NCC-1701)) was constructed in Earth's immediate space. You're a dork for caring about the agricultural land, btw <333333

re: TOS - be aware going in that it's kind of AWFUL. In a good cracky way, but awful. Later series are more polished and I'm not sure about the movies.

[sixth-light.livejournal.com]

re: TOS - be aware going in that it's kind of AWFUL. In a good cracky way, but awful. Later series are more polished and I'm not sure about the movies.

I anticipate *extreme* awfulness, in that 60s way where no-one could actually act and the sets are all made of cardboard. And I'm kind of looking forward to it.

[sennical.livejournal.com]

I got the "OF COURSE we've seen most all the original series episodes, EVERYBODY watched it, there were only THREE CHANNELS" response from my mother when I asked. I suppose I deserved that.

I've already seen it twice. Probably again tomorrow. ♥

[labellementeuse.livejournal.com]

... I remember when there were only 3 TV channels here.

It's so good :D

[amarynth.livejournal.com]

'Only' three? I remember when there were only two!