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re: who, sdfgh someone compared the Donna feeling to the moment at the end of Silver on the Tree when the Drews and pals have their memories wiped and Will is left to carry on alone. I think it's so heartbreaking because these are the characters we're invested in - they're us, the kids from the track, from outside of the circle, and we love them and we're proud of them and they have contributed and been powerful and then everything, even the knowledge and memory of their own capacity for powerfulness, is stripped of them. And it's like the same thing has happened to us in some ways - we really don't belong there. And that sucks. IMO.

Yeah, I liked a lot of the episode but I was not thrilled with the Donna thing (understatement). Because she was more or less becoming my favourite companion and - OK, what really bothered me? that is a RETARDED solution to the problem. it doesn't MAKE SENSE. Problem: Timelord/Human brains smooshed into one tiny skull. Solution: remove a bunch of memories? What? She still has the same understanding capacities, the same actual brain smoosh. What actually needed to happen was to have the Timelord bits of the smoosh squidged out somehow, like the way Rose ditched Bad Wolf or whatever. Not memory erasure. I kind of feel betrayed by the stupidity of this, like, I would rather Donna was dead in many ways - the whole last five minutes just felt like, oh, sorry, Catherine Tate only wanted to do one season and that's that so laters, kids! Ughhhhh.

Date: 2008-07-06 03:45 pm (UTC)
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The comparison to Silver on the Tree also horrifies me a bit because -- a couple months ago I was reading the Dark is Rising Sequence and trying to work out wtf the ending was trying to accomplish, and ... I can't remember whether I logicked it out or actually found a Susan Cooper quote, but I believe the answer re: intent was "Look what I've done! Since the Drews don't remember, they're ordinary people just like you! Perhaps YOU helped stop the Dark from rising!" And now I have this awful crawling feeling that we're perhaps supposed to think that, since Donna is Us and Donna doesn't remember her adventures with the Doctor, perhaps we too might have had adventures with the Doctor, and perhaps aliens on distant worlds sing our praise! But the point of having an X character is Us 'in' to a show is that if the writers do it right, and we get properly invested (as I think a lot of people did with Donna), you feel violated at the end when Donna can't remember. I think it was one of the logical places to take Donna's ending, but it's terrifyingly creepy and perhaps I'm reading it wrong but I think it's meant to be.

Date: 2008-07-09 01:49 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
God, that's awful and horrendously creepy. It certainly wouldn't surprise me if it was Cooper, which I frankly would feel only slightly better about than the Who folks following the same idea, because - yick. And you're absolutely right - we feel violated when this happens to Donna. (And I really invested in her a lot, more than I was expecting for sure. Right now I think she's actually my favourite companion.)

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