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Um. 'ship meme. Of course, you know it'll all have just the one answer... I mean, I'm a true R/Hr believer but it often seems so obvious I don't bother to actively 'ship it.
Um, so, yes.

One True Pairing 'ship: Remus/Sirius, Ron/Hermione. Lesser extent Harry/Ginny.
One True Threesome 'ship: Don't really read threesome much, I confess... um, I've read and liked trio!smut. And, er, Remus/Sirius/James, but that's my "I'm going to hell already, may as well have fun while I'm doing it" 'ship.
Canon 'ship: Ron/Hermione! Oh, you don't take that? Remus/Sirius, theirloveissocanon... Oh, still no bite? Fine, Arthur/Molly, cuteness basis. :p
"If this happens I'll stab my eyes out with a spork" 'ship:Remus/Tonks. Sick sick sick.
"You are one sick bastard" 'ship: Snape/anyone. Or, also, McGonagall/Anyone. Sorry, they were just never meant to have sex EVER.
"I dabble a little" 'ship: Hmm, Ginny/Hermione. And random 'ships I read to scare myself. Oh, oh, Dean/Seamus. I love that, it's so cute.
"It's like a car crash" 'ship: Draco/Anyone, harry/Anyone. they are both so emotionally impaired... I don't think they can really commit. Harry maybe later. A lot later.
"Tickles my fancy but not quite sold yet" 'ship: Luna/Cho. I think I'd need quite a specific dynamic for this to convince. And Snape/Tonks, as can be found in [livejournal.com profile] copperbadge's BRILLIANT fic Laocoon's Children. OK, so it's not there yet, but it's SO coming.
"Makes no canon sense but why the hell not" 'ship: Err.... dunno? I guess Luna/Cho. For fun's sakes. :D
"Everyone else loves it but I just don't feel it" 'ship: Draco/Hermione. WTF peoples?
"I love it but nobody else does" 'ship: Hermione/George. Er?
"When all is said and done" 'ship: OMG R/S R/S IT IS THE ONE TRUE WAY PEOPLE

Oh, and there was no category for Theo/Anne. But dudes, Theodore Nott/Blonde shy Huflepuff OC is THE GREATEST EVAH. piano/flute OMG.

In other news, I missed half of Angels in America tonight, ARG!!!!!!!! *goes to look for plot synopsis* The stupid video recorder didn't well work, nnng.

Date: 2004-11-28 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amphibious-one.livejournal.com
!!

*defends the Snape*

DROOL.

Date: 2004-11-28 11:04 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
Oh, I know, I know, Alan Rickman, he's supposed to be hot, but...

I dunno, Snape is jsut too... oily. And adult. Adults should not have sex, because ew.

On the other hand, Remus and Sirius are the same age as Snape, that can't be my problem...

... jsut call it a subconscious issue. :p

Date: 2004-11-28 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amphibious-one.livejournal.com
Admittedly a lot of Snape-centric stuff seems to have been written by girls letting out some teacherlust frustrations... but come on, which other teachers are there to play with write about? He has aaalll the depth and intrigue and...

*ka-thunk*

There's this idea in theatresports and, I guess, writing in general, that the most interesting characters are those who experience a change in status or outlook. And people love to read about the change/journey- less so about what happens once they're there. I think that's what appeals to and drives a lot of slash authors and readers... the character change. Likewise, I think that Snapefic (with Hermione especially) appeals to people 'cause it ends up with the inevitable journey of him finding some sort of heart within himself. And usually fighting it. None of the other characters have half the journey to make to start a romantic relationship, unless you count straight characters entering slashdom.

It's certainly why, as you said, a pairing that seems too obvious doesn't end up being 'shipped. It's like with the X-Files... almost every single fic is about the very moment two characters (usually M/S) fall in love. Rarely do they describe what happens a year or so later...

LOL, this is a babble fest tonight. Blame the fact that I was actually reading Harry Potter today. *grin*

Date: 2004-11-28 11:43 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
:D Well, hello, there's the ULTIMATE Sexy Professor, Remus John Lupin... *droooooools*

um, yes, right. *reins self in, gets back to Snape*

I think you're right, about interesting characters- and Snape is interesting, and probably in terms of long-term development and depth he may have the most of any character, except maybe Harry. No, scratch that, Harry has like no character developement, he's just an annoying teenager with a broken Capslock button. So yeah, Snape's an interesting character. I think what annoys me about Snape/FOC, or often Snape/Anyone, is... well, a couple of things. For a start, in almost every case the OC, or whoever the significant other is, they usually work to change Snape, yes, but in ways that relep me. often because of their use of cliche. Phrases like "softening his heart" and "finding the kinder, inner Snape" are used. Snape should be Snape- bitchy and asexual. ;) Of course, I know that I can only use that to justify I dislike of badly written or badly plotted or badly characterised Snape!fic. I guess I just don't LIKE the inevitable Snape!journay, whereas I love all ranges or the R/S journey.

Actually, that's a very good explanation of those really WIERD 'ships that you see popping up, that are strange and wierd and yet.. addictive. Like Bellatrix/Ginny. o.O

Babble is all good, i feel like babbling too. ;) As you can tell.

Date: 2004-11-28 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amphibious-one.livejournal.com
Mmm, yeah... there is a lot of really badly characterised stuff out there. It makes finding one that *is* done well all the more rewarding though...! Must be hard getting it right though. I wouldn't know- have never written fanfic myself... but it seems that even JKR gives slightly stereotypical aspects to characters. The best fanfic manages to justify those aspecits in terms of human behaviour. *thinks* Ooh, yeah.. that's my other point: we're driven to read/write out of a need to rationalise characters or plotlines. *nod*

...

OMG have you come across Harry/Hedwig? That has to be the best one yet!!11!one!

Date: 2004-11-29 03:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] disturbed-kiwi.livejournal.com
> but it seems that even JKR gives slightly stereotypical aspects to
> characters.

I'd say she uses stereotypes quite liberally in her books, particularly in regards to fantasy staples.

But then, so does Terry Pratchett. Stereotypes allow greater scope because of the way peoples minds recognise them, but then a good author manages to twist it a little so that the cutout character becomes more human.

Date: 2004-11-28 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miriamus.livejournal.com
*thinks* No, that won't work for me. Apart from being bored of slash right now I only ever come across two sorts in my universe - Pete/Carl and Alex/Nick. How joyous it is to see good Bob slash, when I actually want to read it...

Date: 2004-11-28 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabbysun.livejournal.com
*giggle*

And Snape/Tonks, as can be found in copperbadge's BRILLIANT fic Laocoon's Children. OK, so it's not there yet, but it's SO coming.

IT IS SO HAPPENING AND I AM SO READY FOR IT, EVEN THOUGH I WOULD NEVER EVER WANT TO SEE IT HAPPEN IN CANON BECAUSE EW BUT SAM IS A GENIUS SO IT'S COOL.

And most of these ships I completely agree with. (For a while I very actively shipped Tonks/Remus but I've grown out of it, hooray for my psyche!?)

"Everyone else loves it but I just don't feel it" 'ship: SNARRY. I MEAN . . . WTF!? Even the pairing name sounds bad. :(

Date: 2004-11-28 11:07 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
OMG I KNOW I KNOW SAM IS GOD, i tell you, GOD. or at leat GENIUS UNPARALLELED. GENIUS. GENIUS REMUS, too, which almost rhymes in a really bad tragic kinda ay. (he does OMFG the best remus EVAH though.)

Mmph, tonks/Remus... I and [livejournal.com profile] sixth_light have a nonagression policy on R/T. She ships it, I backstab it, we just don't talk about it. ;)

OMG SNARRY I KNOW!

Date: 2004-11-28 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabbysun.livejournal.com
YES YES YES! xDDD You know, my entire Thanksgiving Break I was so sure he was going to update with a new chapter, so I'm like squirming with excitement, right? Well, total deflatement when he doesn't. :( GRAR.

xD I think I'm going to hold out a little longer before deciding who Tonks's "soulmate" is. Canon can really rip apart all your hopes if you get them up in the wrong direction. :(

IT'S SO . . . EWWY. *horribly immature xD*

Date: 2004-11-28 11:20 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
OMG I KNOW. But it's better for me, because I'm reading Rebuilding Ozymandias at [livejournal.com profile] dead_sirius, adn that got updated twice while I was in hospital. You should try it! You don't have to read the first one (I still haven't) and OMG teh slash potential is sooo sweet. Plus of course it's Sam. :D

Hmm, yes well... I've pretty much given up, I'll confess- let JKR decide,or whatever. Unless of course she decides remus, in which case it will become like The Event of Which We Do Not Speak in OotP. OMG

I KNOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!! omg grease ewwwww

Date: 2004-11-28 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabbysun.livejournal.com
I think I will — I've got the journal friended but haven't done anything about it yet. xD So when I've got time I'll be looking it up.

xD Exactly. LET THE BALL ROOOOLL.

IT'S . . . YUCKY.

Date: 2004-11-28 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sennical.livejournal.com
Word on the Remus/Tonks. Ewwwwwwwww.

I've always had a particular affinity for Charlie/Tonks. Me and like, five other people in the whole fandom. I mean, there's really no evidence for it, but it seems like it would work.

Date: 2004-11-28 09:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
OMG YES. >.<

*nods* I could really do that- Tonks I'm so ambivalent about, but- have you read After the End? A lot of the time it seems like Charlie was basically with Cho 'cause their names sounded good together and A&Z had, like, a pathological inability to leave people single, but what dynamic there was would really have worked with Tonks, now that AtE Cho is so totally blown out of the water.

Date: 2004-11-29 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sennical.livejournal.com
Oh, yeah. AtE was my reintroduction to the fandom, sort of. And the C/C worked for the most part, but it'll never happen now, what with the direction Cho's character has taken. And with Charlie and Tonks, it just seems to me like they would fit together, given what we know of both their temperaments and characters.

Date: 2004-11-28 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongestdays.livejournal.com
R/S plz.

But I can't stand Draco/Hermione. It irks me.

Date: 2004-11-28 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sixth-light.livejournal.com
Well, it irks Jo too, seeing as she went out of her way to sink it. What gets me is how people can still ship it when JKR, the Goddess of All Things Harry Potter, has officially, finally, and forever declared it a no-go. It's like shipping Harry/Cho after OoTP. Just...no.

Date: 2004-11-28 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongestdays.livejournal.com
Oh I know. I can't see how people think it canon when it's been very clearly made out that there's no possibilty of it happening. *sigh*

Date: 2004-11-28 09:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
Well, um... they're allowed? What I don't get- even though I personally dislike the 'ship- is why you seem to think that, just becaquse JKR doesn't like it, it should NEVER HAPPEN OMG!11!! I don't like it, but I don't mind people shipping it. They're allowed. Saying they can't, or shouldn't, or that it annoys you is so... 1984.

Date: 2004-11-29 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sixth-light.livejournal.com
Well, see, to me the fun of shipping is that you imagine it happening post-canon/in a missing moment of canon/stuff like that. It should be possible, or there's no point. (Or have a really really really good fic written about it.)

But when the author has said that those two characters personalities preclude such a ship ever happening, then yeah, I think it shouldn't happen since it is OOC. As a good Canon Nazi, I will barrack against any OOC behaviour. At least the H/Hers can (in their twisted fashion) find evidence for the possibility. D/H is so sunk, it's chatting with the Titanic.

Date: 2004-11-28 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-linz.livejournal.com
Aw, I didn't know you were an R/Hr shipper :) I like it as well, but for some reason never really do the R/Hr shippy-thing.

Dean/Seamus is adorable.

I really think you need some Sirius/Snape, THAT would convince you Snape is HO-OT :P

*Hugs*

Date: 2004-11-28 09:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
Yeah, me either- I did for a while, but gave up on it for R/S.

It so is. <333

no offense... but nooooooo!11!!1!

Closest I'll ever come to S/S is SS/RL. And even that I only read when it transforms to RL/SB later on in the fic. o.O

Date: 2004-11-29 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miriamus.livejournal.com
Damn HP......lmao

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